June Internationals

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I actually thing the Boks were not bad at all, The French were not great, but that could have been a result of the Boks playing better and their (The Boks) defense was fantastic.

[supersupporter 1,255]

There was a stat that in the 3 tests the Boks had made 350 tackles and the French 130, this showed that the Boks shut them out and dominated defense, preventing the French from scoring, so by that logic i would like to believe that the french were not totally bad.

The Boks could also have been better, i think if Cronje was fit, it would have been a bigger hiding.

But, for now it is 3 wins and a step in the right direction.

[taipan 2,193]

9 minutes ago, J1M1 said:

Were the Boks that good or the French that bad?

We will see when we play the Aussies.

[taipan 2,193]

1 minute ago, supersupporter said:

There was a stat that in the 3 tests the Boks had made 350 tackles and the French 130, this showed that the Boks shut them out and dominated defense, preventing the French from scoring, so by that logic i would like to believe that the french were not totally bad.

The Boks could also have been better, i think if Cronje was fit, it would have been a bigger hiding.

But, for now it is 3 wins and a step in the right direction.

 Can't believe that stat.

[WeDaFaKaWe 508]

Jan Serfontein MoM 

Excellent call!

[vlagman 1,300]

29 minutes ago, supersupporter said:

Jan Serfontein's line-out leap

Watching in the UK and I had a nice chuckle when Thinus Delport credited Brendon Venter for this move, I recall the Lions doing this in SR with Faf jumping...

Joost also had a few line-out jumps. 

[taipan 2,193]

4 minutes ago, vlagman said:

Joost also had a few  jumps. 

Fixed.

[supersupporter 1,255]

SA made - 178 + 217 + 131

France made - 100 + 68 + 97

These are the final stats, i got the stats during the game

 

Nice stats site

https://www.alloutrugby.com/stats/

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32 minutes ago, taipan said:

 Can't believe that stat.

I am not entirely sure on the number given on TV, but it was close to those I mentioned, or not far off

[taipan 2,193]

6 minutes ago, supersupporter said:

SA made - 178 + 217 + 131

France made - 100 + 68 + 97

These are the final stats, i got the stats during the game

 

Nice stats site

https://www.alloutrugby.com/stats/

Sorry but those still don't make sense to me.

[supersupporter 1,255]

3 tests

[The Don 386]

34 minutes ago, taipan said:

Sorry but those still don't make sense to me.

Yes, it is confusing????

[The Don 386]

1 hour ago, supersupporter said:

I actually thing the Boks were not bad at all, The French were not great, but that could have been a result of the Boks playing better and their (The Boks) defense was fantastic.

A good summary methinks.

[taipan 2,193]

15 minutes ago, supersupporter said:

3 tests

I know. If the tackle count was 217-68 for the 2nd test, to my mind it shows our defence was extremely ineffectual.

[supersupporter 1,255]

If you recall there was that stage for about 15 minutes or so after half time where the french attacked. I think there alone was a huge amount of defense takling place.

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2 minutes ago, taipan said:

I know. If the tackle count was 217-68 for the 2nd test, to my mind it shows our defence was extremely ineffectual.

Then you need to look at the turnover stat

 

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10 minutes ago, supersupporter said:

Then you need to look at the turnover stat

 

Exactly, that and the possession stat. If we had to make 217 tackles it indicates to me that we were poor in effecting turnovers.

if we have to make 217 tackles against the ABs we will lose by 50.

[supersupporter 1,255]

4 minutes ago, taipan said:

Exactly, that and the possession stat. If we had to make 217 tackles it indicates to me that we were poor in effecting turnovers.

if we have to make 217 tackles against the ABs we will lose by 50.

It also shows that this side can sustain long periods of attack...yes this is not NZ, but it is a step in the right direction showing that mentally they keep giving their all. Du Preez made many of those defensive tackles during that phase and was great, but, we needed a true fetcher who will fight for that ball, Perhaps this is where a guy like Cloete can come in. I cannot think of anyone else who turns over ball like he does. Is Kriel known for his fetching?

[taipan 2,193]

I also don't believe that Whitely only made 14 tackles over 2 tests given that he was one of the major defenders in that game.

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It all depends if he was playing behind Rhule, if so he would have made many more..

[taipan 2,193]

5 minutes ago, supersupporter said:

It all depends if he was playing behind Rhule, if so he would have made many more..

Rhule made 24 tackles.

[WeDaFaKaWe 508]

Rhule was disappointing, especially in the last test.

[taipan 2,193]

He made as many tackles as Marx

[supersupporter 1,255]

But never missed as many lineout throws

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I guess Marx is trying to live up to the Bismarck 2.0