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14 minutes ago, J1M1 said:

At least they weren't following the rest of the sheeple so credit to them for trying to find their own way out of the mess. 

True, but their efforts showed up the crappiness of the efforts of the rest. That’s the point. Their figures are no worse than the rest who fucked up their economies and then still yielded the same results as the Swedes who basically carried on as normal. 

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13 hours ago, vlagman said:

True, but their efforts showed up the crappiness of the efforts of the rest. That’s the point. Their figures are no worse than the rest who fucked up their economies and then still yielded the same results as the Swedes who basically carried on as normal. 

Eggzackery!!

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18 hours ago, J1M1 said:

So..........you have to add on/in an additional 14 days  -who pays for that? Where do you stay? Who do you stay with?

Do you get the idea nobody really has a clue?

Maybe it's the politicians trying to show how "concerned" they are about your & my welfare - bullshit!

i'll die the day i'm supposed to, not a day sooner or a day later.

Now, give me a scotch & a cigar & let me die happy............

hot tip  - get into the bicycle business.

Over here they lock you down in 4-5  stars on government dime for the moment. You are actually locked down - you get stuck in hotel room and can't leave the building or in some cases the room. Some dipshit snuck away on two occasions and got 30 days in the proper prison.

I think more recent travellers will be getting the bill given Covid 19 is no longer a surprise.

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16 hours ago, taipan said:

And I don’t believe that Sweden is quite the success that is being claimed.

Correct - death rate is a fair bit higher than their near neighbours (Norway etc) and the hoped for herd immunity doesn't look like being achieved any time soon. Antibody tests in Sweden suggest that 7% of the population has recovered from the virus well short of at least 40% required for herd immunity.

Despite all that I like their approach - if you are in danger category isolate otherwise soldier on.

Canada has more Covid 19 cases (and deaths) than China. Does anybody really believe that

 

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5 hours ago, Docker said:

Despite all that I like their approach - if you are in danger category isolate otherwise soldier on.

Precisely. I am on my ninth week out of twelve weeks of govt imposed isolation. There are 1.5m of us. The rest, bar the vulnerable elderly, should have carried on.

Mind you the vulnerable elderly are not in jobs anymore in any case. 

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We are also in the 9th week here.

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25 minutes ago, J1M1 said:

And then there is also the politics to keep an eye on. 
A friend in SA sent me this:

"The time has come,' the Walrus said, "to talk of many things:
Of Covid 19, Lockdown, and the clipping of our wings".

This is not mere speculation, nor is it conspiracy theory. Over the past two months I have gathered information from every possible online source, I have studied views and opinions from a diversity of political leanings and ideologies, I have revisited the RSA Constitution and Disaster Management Act.
I have again gone over the ANC presidential election of 2017, the machinations and implications of the outcome.
I have observed the implementation of the Act and, along with millions of others, have puzzled over the curious regulations attached thereto.
And finally, I have called upon my own lifelong observation of the ANC and their peculiar brand of Communism/ Socialism/ Africanism.

I post this in shortened form, in plain, rather than academic terms, for ease of reading, but I am prepared to expand on and debate each point.

I do not claim to be an expert.  The analysis is my own. The opinion is my own. It is an ongoing project.

You decide!

South Africa: Coup d' Zuma

The roots of the ANC/SACP ideology are deeply implanted in Stalinism, with a good dosage of Maoism thrown in.
Founded as an organisation to primarily secure equal rights for black South Africans,  the exposure of generations of leadership to the Stalinist/Maoist ideology, along with  conveniently targeted aspects of African tribal tradition, particularly the elitism of leadership, has morphed into the ANC of today.

The failure and fall of Soviet communism has been no deterrent, has brought about no change of heart. China was always ready, willing and able to take over the reins, which fits in perfectly with their expansionist policies.

Factionalism has always been part and parcel of the ANC. But so too has towing the line, once any particular faction gains ascendency. For a while. 
Changing allegiance from faction to faction for personal gain is also nothing new. But it is a fine line that members must walk, for  punishments are real, and harsh. Loyalty, however, is lavishly rewarded.
Memories are very long in the ANC, and losing a factional battle does not mean that the fight is over. Over one hundred years of scheming, plotting and backstabbing have been ingrained into the institutional memory.

Ramaphosa beat Dlamini Zuma by the narrowest of margins in December 17. This inevitably created a situation where promises had to be kept, compromises made, pay offs honoured.
The curious situation of the NWC being in the hands of the Zuma faction and the Government in the hands of the Ramaphosa faction has, until now, effectively created a stalemate. Neither faction could fully apply their agendas, thus the stagnant two years of the Ramaphosa presidency.

But the factions of the ANC do not sleep. Scheming and plotting continue. Never make the mistake of thinking the factional leadership are stupid. They are, in fact, past masters at playing this game. They have to be. It's life or death. Immense wealth and prestige versus abject poverty and ostracism. They'll use every tool at their disposal, legal or not.

Remember too that the ANC NEC considers any member they place in any position a deployee, and may withdraw or redeploy them at any time. 

South Africa is in the unique position where we are not ultimately led by a president. We have a collective presidency where the majority in cabinet rules. The president is merely the figurehead and spokesperson for the cabinet. And ultimately, South Africa is governed from Luthuli House, not the Union Buildings.

The Curious Case of Dlamini Zuma's cabinet position.

As a narrowly defeated presidential candidate, one would have expected Dlamini Zuma to be appointed Deputy President, or at least to one of the prestige Security portfolios. Instead, she became Minister of Co-operative Governance and Traditional Affairs.
Now bear in mind that co-operative government is covered in chapter three of the constitution, right after the Bill of Rights, underlining the importance of the cabinet post. The minister effectively has control of all three tiers of government, all provinces and all municipalities.

The Disaster Management Act states that DURING THE FULL TERM OF ANY EMERGENCY/DISASTER, THE MINISTER OF  CO-OPERATIVE  GOVERNANCE CARRIES THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY! This effectively means that during an emergency, the Minister of Cooperative Governance's authority supercedes that of the President.
This means that South Africa is being ruled by Dlamini Zuma and thus, by the Zuma faction.
(I use the word "ruled" deliberately, because the Constitution is suspended and laws and regulations are being made by edict).
And she rules until the end of Level one!
And she determines the duration of each level;
And she decides when the disaster is officially over!

Covid 19

I am not going to claim that, because the ANC is so deeply and happily in bed with China, they were part and parcel of this worldwide blight. Time will tell if any conspiracy did take place.
I am however convinced that if Covid 19 had not reared it's head, the Zuma faction would have engineered a "Disaster". Any excuse would have sufficed. More than likely it would have had to do with the "Land" issue, it would have involved unrest and political instability. But the tools were there for Dlamini Zuma to take over. She and her faction were waiting for this.
She is our ipso facto President.

Lockdown regulations.

So many of the regulations seem to be totally inane. Ill  conceived. Not thought through.
From the length of time of each level to the  silly, irritating minutiae of what we may wear and eat. But knowing the way the ANC schemes, I can assure you that EVERYTHING is carefully planned, thought through, schemed and plotted. It is all very deliberate.
Every move is calculated to keep the Lockdown going for as long as possible, to keep Dlamini Zuma in charge.

Think back to the start of lockdown. The population largely bought into it. Acceptance. Compliance. Good Humour. Some grumbling, but nothing serious. Even the ban on alcohol and smoking didn't cause much of an outcry at first, because no-one was sure of anything.

But now the lockdown and it's regulations are starting to hurt badly. People are talking protest and civil disobedience.
And that's exactly what the Zuma faction want. 
Any reason to extend, to prolong the situation. To keep them in power.
And they have the full might of the (already heavy handed) police and military at their disposal.

The Bill of Rights in the Constitution provide for certain inalienable rights. Rights that may not be eroded:

*Freedom of*

*Equality*:
Eroded - certain members of the population are not benefiting from disaster relief. And I am not only referring to white people.

*Human Dignity*
Eroded -
The undignified manner in which we are being treated in general, treated as if we are stupid, appeals to reason being ignored, people being belittled and made to perform various acts at the whim of police and army. Etc.

*Freedom and Security of the Person*
Eroded -
We're in lockdown. Not at liberty.

*Privacy*:
Eroded -
How much privacy do we have? They have carte blanche to monitor your communications and everything else.

*Religion, Belief and Opinion*:
Eroded -
Places of worship closed; opinions, even of medical/scientific experts, challenged, belittled, villified.
Social media restrictions.
Opinion contrary to government actions now indictable.

*Expression*:
Eroded -
Press censorship (social)
Restrictions on and witholding of information to the media.
Academic freedom now at the whim if the State.

*Assembly, Demonstration, Picket and Petition*:
Eroded -
We cannot by decree, do the first three.
Petitions are ignored. Unless they suit the narrative.

*Association*:
Eroded -
You may associate with whomever you want. But just try it!

*Political Rights*:
Eroded -
Try some door to door canvassing!
And by decree, it is illegal to campaign against the current situation.

*Movement and Residence*:
Eroded -
You can only go anywhere at the whim of the government.
You cannot move home.
You cannot live where you wish.

*Trade, Occupation and  Profession*:
Eroded -
Who may work, where you may work, when you may work, at the whim if the State.

*Property*:
Eroded -
EWC says it all.

*Health Care, Food, Water and Social Security*:
Eroded -
All aspects a dismal ANC delivery failure.

*Education*:
Eroded -
Total State control over curriculum.
Schools and other educational institutions will open and close at the whim of the state. 

*Access to Information*:
Eroded -
Sec. 32(a)  states "anyone has the right to access any information held by the State".
Just try it!
Even instances of Dlamini Zuma refusing to release  information to the Courts.

I began this article referring to the ingrained institutional Stalinism of the ANC.
This is now manifesting itself in the current unfolding of events.
Everyone is ostensibly equal and free, but the "Elite" are more equal and more free.
All  of our freedoms suspended. Soldiers on the streets.
No dissent tolerated.

There are social media groups representing all the eroded Rights. The mainstream media is overflowing with complaint and protest. Serious calls for mass demonstrations and civil disobedience are being made.

Beware. Be careful.
It's the excuse the Zuma faction has been waiting for, in order to crack down really hard.

I am not suggesting blind subservience.
We do need to stand up to this tyranny. We do need to stand together. We need the democratic international community to know about, understand and assist in our plight.

But most of all, share this and similar posts as far and wide as possible. Forget the 5G, Bill Gates, New World Order narrative and focus on the real and imminent danger to our very existence 

Let the Zuma ANC know that we know. That we're wise to what they're doing.

Greg Deegan

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Thanks Vlag!! This captures exactly what i've been feeling but not able to articulate -sigh!!

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4 minutes ago, J1M1 said:

Thanks Vlag!! This captures exactly what i've been feeling but not able to articulate -sigh!!

There are a number of things in the piece that caught my eye. Among them are the reference to a potentially fabricated disaster. My feeling is that it is quite believable and that there are a few examples. 
 

You may remember Wynand du Toit, the recce POW who was captured in northern Angola following a failed spec ops operation. 
 

I met him a short wile after his release and I have heard from him, first hand, the events surrounding his capture, his term as a POW and his subsequent release. I have seen a recent clip of an interview with him where he explained how he has researched and sought answers, surrounding the entire operation. Especially since he questioned the planning of the operation at the and how he came to the only explanation why the op was planned in the way it was and why it failed. It was planned to fail, and he and his men, including those who lost their lives, were just pawns in a much bigger game of chess. 
 

You may want to excuse his Westcoast English. 
 

 

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On 5/18/2020 at 11:25 AM, taipan said:

.75 kw should be plenty. Must be some issue affecting the pressure.

Dropped the water level down in the pool and the little bloke is now trying to leap out of the pool.

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Baffled. Why would a lower level help climbing?

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13 minutes ago, taipan said:

Baffled. Why would a lower level help climbing?

Dunno but is only thing that is different. The water level was very high before ( above the upper level of the skimmer box). I did just throw the stabilizer in before rather than letting it dissolve slowly through a stocking as recommended so maybe that messed with the moving bits. Anyway all good now 

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Methinks the cigarette ban will be lifted 24th June........after Tito presents his "emergency budget" with serious new "sin taxes" on booze & fags...................

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It will be lifted before the court ruling......

 

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2 minutes ago, taipan said:

It will be lifted before the court ruling......

 

Hopefully!!

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Then the ANC will claim they were not found to be in the wrong.

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3 hours ago, taipan said:

Then the ANC will claim they were not found to be in the wrong.

Bunch of real ass fuckwits...,somehow I hope this does major damage to that stupid woman's 'reputation' as a potential 'leader for the country'  but I doubt it..stupid does as stupid is and we all know the ANC's first name...

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Vlag, what's with the stabbings in Reading?

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Cape Town Covid Doom...only prep I do is stocking up on beer.:)

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On 6/22/2020 at 1:06 PM, J1M1 said:

Vlag, what's with the stabbings in Reading?

Sorry J1M1. I missed this one. Yeah it’s a sad thing that happened. The fucker comes here seeking asylum, gets it and then kills innocent people in protest against the country that is shielding him from the shit in his own hellhole country. 

I have no idea how many times I’ve been to that park. I was thinking about it, when I heard of the incident, I have pictures that I took when me and the missus were there with our grand daughter when she was around one year old. Pictures were taken at almost the exact spot where the fucker stabbed the first victim. Crazy. 

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1 hour ago, vlagman said:

Sorry J1M1. I missed this one. Yeah it’s a sad thing that happened. The fucker comes here seeking asylum, gets it and then kills innocent people in protest against the country that is shielding him from the shit in his own hellhole country. 

I have no idea how many times I’ve been to that park. I was thinking about it, when I heard of the incident, I have pictures that I took when me and the missus were there with our grand daughter when she was around one year old. Pictures were taken at almost the exact spot where the fucker stabbed the first victim. Crazy. 

and then they all wonder why nobody wants them...................

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13 hours ago, DbDraad said:

Cape Town Covid Doom...only prep I do is stocking up on beer.:)

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The epicenter is moving North East ?

My accountant came to work after long weekend. HAd been back home (JHB)  - his wife tested positive the long weekend..I said WTF are you doing back at the office???? He Turned out positive too but doing well so far...thought I would have to do his job at month end but so far I have been spared in that task 😉

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