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Agree to disagree Weda. The biggest clown the world has ever seen in a 1st world leading democracy

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1 hour ago, Mata Hari said:

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Agree to disagree Weda. The biggest clown the world has ever seen in a 1st world leading democracy

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Given the alternatives (Clinton and now Biden) I would be voting for Trump. Trump is a seriously flawed individual who is a habitual liar and egomaniac but has to be considered safe hands compared to what other mob are proposing (green new deal, reparations for slavery etc). If Biden gets elected start learning Mandarin and buy physical gold and silver or gold producing stocks. 

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3 hours ago, Docker said:

Given the alternatives (Clinton and now Biden) I would be voting for Trump. Trump is a seriously flawed individual who is a habitual liar and egomaniac but has to be considered safe hands compared to what other mob are proposing (green new deal, reparations for slavery etc). If Biden gets elected start learning Mandarin and buy physical gold and silver or gold producing stocks. 

I am with Dock here. I dislike Trump but Biden offers nothing but bending over for the minority.

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7 hours ago, Mata Hari said:

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Agree to disagree Weda. The biggest clown the world has ever seen in a 1st world leading democracy

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Fully agree Mata, last night he fluffed it.

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9 hours ago, Docker said:

Given the alternatives (Clinton and now Biden) I would be voting for Trump. Trump is a seriously flawed individual who is a habitual liar and egomaniac but has to be considered safe hands compared to what other mob are proposing (green new deal, reparations for slavery etc). If Biden gets elected start learning Mandarin and buy physical gold and silver or gold producing stocks. 

LOL all good Dock. I have given up stressing over the clown, I just feel for my American friends. As I told you I am not a full blown Dem but I could never support the current incumbent. Of course I would have voted for Hilary 4 years ago, then at least you guys might have been bitching today and not me. I cried the day Hilary lost_ I might even cry again come November_I remain astounded that the biggest so called democracy in the world cannot raise a decent leader to the offering in 5+ years. I liked that Michael  guy I have now forgotten his name....I stopped listening to their politics a while ago...

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6 hours ago, Mata Hari said:

LOL all good Dock. I have given up stressing over the clown, I just feel for my American friends. As I told you I am not a full blown Dem but I could never support the current incumbent. Of course I would have voted for Hilary 4 years ago, then at least you guys might have been bitching today and not me. I cried the day Hilary lost_ I might even cry again come November_I remain astounded that the biggest so called democracy in the world cannot raise a decent leader to the offering in 5+ years. I liked that Michael  guy I have now forgotten his name....I stopped listening to their politics a while ago...

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Bloomberg?

The bloke is worth $50 billion plus but threw his lot in with wannabe socialists - strange bedfellows.

The US political and legal system is structurally flawed in so many ways with executive power of the President being one of the most obvious. No system is perfect but the Westminster system is clearly superior

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The problem is that the Democrats support BLM and all the associated BS that gives with it.

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I've been re-reading Kurt Vonnegut (Wampeters Foma and Grandfalloons)

I suspect he's 100% right..........

In a manner that must shame God himself:

“I would like to say, ‘ the two real political parties in America are the Winners and the Losers. The people do not acknowledge this. They claim membership in two imaginary parties, the Republicans and the Democrats instead.

Both imaginary parties are bossed by Winners. When Republicans battle Democrats, this much is certain: Winners will win.

The Democrats have been the larger party in the past – because their leaders have not been as openly contemptuous of Losers as the Republicans have.

Losers can join imaginary parties. Losers can vote.

Losers have thousands of religions, often of the bleeding heart variety. The single religion of the Winners is a harsh interpretation of Darwinism, which argues that it is the will of the universe that only the fittest survive.

imho Donald is probably using Vonnegut as the basis for his election hand-book – Winners. That’s about all he seems capable of speaking about.

BUT....what scares me shitless is that whoever wins is regarded as "the leader of the free world"............God help us!!

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7 hours ago, taipan said:

The problem is that the Democrats support BLM and all the associated BS that gives with it.

Yep - BLM is a lot more than raging against alleged police brutality. No one seems overly concerned when black folks kill other black folks in droves or even when police get killed in the line of duty (over 50 last year in the US).

A recent Joe Rogan and Bridget Phetasy podcast discussed a idiotic situation where a group of white middle upper class kids were rioting and screaming at a line of mainly black police about BLM 

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I follow a few chaps on Social media and they have revealed scary facts about this entire BLM movement. It is very politically driven and all these jackasses who get up early in the morning to loot and protest are just puppets for white Democrats. They did point out that the KKK was formed by Democrats, not sure how true this is, I am not American, so I do not know their history, but how funny would it be if the ~BLM movement and the billions they raise is actually going straight to the very party that started the KKK.

If you are on Facebook, Search Joel Patrick and The Hodge Twins, Big Trump fans as are many blacks in the USA who care little about being "Oppressed" :)

https://www.facebook.com/JoelPatrick1776

What i like about Joel Patrick is like many USA blacks they are so tired of being told that they are oppressed and that they do not have the same rights as whites. One of his videos he talks about going and quoting for a job at a house, and the woman was going on about how she feels sorry for how his people are treated, this dude explained that his truck is worth more than her house. It is funny.

In todays video he talks about the Debate, but interestingly he points out how they try trick people to answer questions that can get you into trouble, an example was asking someone, Answer yes or no, have you stopped hitting your wife? There is no possible answer yes or no, unless you do. (White Privilege video)

https://www.facebook.com/thehodgetwins

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27 minutes ago, supersupporter said:

I follow a few chaps on Social media and they have revealed scary facts about this entire BLM movement. It is very politically driven and all these jackasses who get up early in the morning to loot and protest are just puppets for white Democrats. They did point out that the KKK was formed by Democrats, not sure how true this is, I am not American, so I do not know their history, but how funny would it be if the ~BLM movement and the billions they raise is actually going straight to the very party that started the KKK.

If you are on Facebook, Search Joel Patrick and The Hodge Twins, Big Trump fans as are many blacks in the USA who care little about being "Oppressed" :)

The Democrats were the party of the Jim Crow laws (forced segregation) which led to the KKK 

Strangely all the cities in the US which have massive social issues and entrenched disadvantage are Democrat controlled (Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore etc) and have been for years - the locals are yet to join up the dots.

 

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, Docker said:

Bloomberg?

The bloke is worth $50 billion plus but threw his lot in with wannabe socialists - strange bedfellows.

The US political and legal system is structurally flawed in so many ways with executive power of the President being one of the most obvious. No system is perfect but the Westminster system is clearly superior

Yeah I liked him for more than his money :15_8_217:

But the Dems all clearly saw early on - it was Biden vs Sanders, so choose one of the two and put your weight there and stay there. In all honesty he could NOT support the current idiotic, racist, misogynistic, shit piece of 'humanity' that is currently in charge...it just goes against all grains of commons sense that I have. (You guys may have other grains....other reasons...the few I have I feel very strongly about so....) My 'family' sent me  an e mail last night of their comment on the live TV debate where racism is now splitting the US in two. They are normal decent, hardworking Dems...not one inch of a crazy fucktard amongst them...and they weep at the thought of this batshit crazy guy getting another term. I weep at the thought myself, I really do. "Stand back boys.,..and stand by"...Really? 

I have no problems with Joe. He is certainly not a Barack, who in my opinion, was such a decent kind of leader. Unfortunately Joe is not the loud mouth dominating bullshit talker of his opponent - As Jim said, Donald Jackass really plays the winners take all card...in ways that totally destroy any remnant of decency. He is a win at all costs_ and at all costs is what will happen to the US society. 

Barlee - I think Taipan or Vlag? Or I read it somewhere else - The Dems did not 'start' the Ku Klux Klan. It was however started by the party against the Republicans at the time

read here

Founded in 1865, the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) extended into almost every southern state by 1870 and became a vehicle for white southern resistance to the Republican Party’s Reconstruction-era policies aimed at establishing political and economic equality for Black Americans. You can read more here https://www.history.com/topics/reconstruction/ku-klux-klan. I think it is just because the party at the time opposing the Republicans formed the KKK - but it isnt the Dems of today. It is more right wing obviously than the Republicans at the time 😉

 

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18 minutes ago, Docker said:

The Democrats were the party of the Jim Crow laws (forced segregation) which led to the KKK 

Strangely all the cities in the US which have massive social issues and entrenched disadvantage are Democrat controlled (Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore etc) and have been for years - the locals are yet to join up the dots.

 

 

 

 

Yes that is interesting Dock. May prove the socialist policies do not work? Which we all know. But then Rich begets rich ...the rich get richer and the poor poorer..and that is also a societal problem especially in cities. How would the Republicans handle such a situation? I doubt it would improve 

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“The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.”

 

Margaret Thatcher

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14 hours ago, Mata Hari said:

Yes that is interesting Dock. May prove the socialist policies do not work? Which we all know. But then Rich begets rich ...the rich get richer and the poor poorer..and that is also a societal problem especially in cities. How would the Republicans handle such a situation? I doubt it would improve 

The Australian experience is that increasing the level of welfare doesn't help social disadvantage in the long term - it provides a sugar hit that develops into full blown diabetes (total dependence on welfare). We now have inter generational welfare here now with no prospect of anyone breaking out of cycle despite massive assistance and programs to do so. Killing people with kindness is still killing them.

80% of black males grow up in single parent families in the US (up from 20% in 1970) and a significant number of these lads have numeracy and literacy skills no greater than grade 7 level. Who is responsible for this? 

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2 hours ago, Docker said:

The Australian experience is that increasing the level of welfare doesn't help social disadvantage in the long term - it provides a sugar hit that develops into full blown diabetes (total dependence on welfare). We now have inter generational welfare here now with no prospect of anyone breaking out of cycle despite massive assistance and programs to do so. Killing people with kindness is still killing them.

80% of black males grow up in single parent families in the US (up from 20% in 1970) and a significant number of these lads have numeracy and literacy skills no greater than grade 7 level. Who is responsible for this? 

Capitalism is the only workable system.

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43 minutes ago, taipan said:

Capitalism is the only workable system.

Yep with some checks and balances to prevent predatory or coercive behaviour

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Step 1 - STOP funding political parties!!

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5 hours ago, Docker said:

The Australian experience is that increasing the level of welfare doesn't help social disadvantage in the long term - it provides a sugar hit that develops into full blown diabetes (total dependence on welfare). We now have inter generational welfare here now with no prospect of anyone breaking out of cycle despite massive assistance and programs to do so. Killing people with kindness is still killing them.

80% of black males grow up in single parent families in the US (up from 20% in 1970) and a significant number of these lads have numeracy and literacy skills no greater than grade 7 level. Who is responsible for this? 

The (absent) fathers? Our world is full of absent fathers and male mentors/leaders....SA has the same _and the single mothers try their best  to work feed and educate the kids. It is a known societal fact_ where there are absent fathers /leaders the society is in shit...

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5 hours ago, Docker said:

The Australian experience is that increasing the level of welfare doesn't help social disadvantage in the long term - it provides a sugar hit that develops into full blown diabetes (total dependence on welfare). We now have inter generational welfare here now with no prospect of anyone breaking out of cycle despite massive assistance and programs to do so. Killing people with kindness is still killing them.

80% of black males grow up in single parent families in the US (up from 20% in 1970) and a significant number of these lads have numeracy and literacy skills no greater than grade 7 level. Who is responsible for this? 

Black on black gang violence kills far more than the minimal amount of police shootings. Why isn’t BLM demonstrating about that.

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I also heard that more whites are killed in the USA by cops in bad shoots than blacks, another distorted fact left out by media. The media also fail to highlight when groups of blacks kill young black children, again it never fits the narrative of liberals. Its a fucking joke, and it gets worse when assholes in the UK use TV to make their points yet fail to say anything when an innocent cop is killed by a criminal. That dance group on ITV in the UK, a group who seemed to have done well off the back of white people, a group who's parents are mixed race, but thinks he will use his dance to make cops look bad.

I mean how stupid must you be the protest when dumb criminals get shot. Who cares when they are killed?

People often say, All LIves Matter, like hell they do;..Innocent Lives Matter. I could care less when some criminal is shot, especially when he is told to not move, he goes to his car, reaches for a knife and is put down.

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Yep, more whites are shot but the argument is that blacks are only 17% of the population. Of course the other fact that never never gets mentioned is that blacks commit far more than 17% of the crime.

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Why the shock/horror that dear donald has covid?

Maybe it's a ploy for a sympathy vote................

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